Catching up on stuff:
Thank goodness it's cooled down a bit....
I've posted reviews of Minority Report and Open Secret in Opinion, and I should have at least one comic and two more book reviews up in the next day or so. How good am I?
Returning to the topic of the comics message boards I occasionally check out, I spotted a thread a little earlier of the "What's your favourite [fill in the blank] ever?" school. In this case it was comic cover. Vaguely wondering what sort of stuff would be favoured, I checked it out, only to find that each page was huge because posters were calling in (often quite large) images of the covers they like, and almost all from other people's sites. Now, I've always had a big problem with this kind of thing, so I posted a fairly innocuous comment to the effect that I didn't want to spoil the party, but isn't what you're doing basically bandwidth theft?
The reply I got was very enlightening: "I'm getting them from Mile High Comics and no. It's not". In other words, "yes I'm taking them from someone else's site but no, somehow this isn't theft." Fortunately, someone else stepped in to point out that therefore this is exactly what it is, quoting a copyright notice on the Mile High site in support. Which led to some contrition from the "I'm not stealing" man.
The reason I find this whole exchange enlightening is that it made me realise that there probably is an entire generation of web users who don't think there's anything wrong with pulling in content from another site, mindless of issues of either intellectual ownership or straightforward resource theft. Rather than growing up (in web user terms) accepting the conventions and standards that have been established, they succumb to the simple convenience of what they can achieve. I've actually mailed the owners of the boards to ask whether they think they ought to be educating their users in the rights and wrongs.
And finally for this evening - JakeTM.org - Ivan Massow's latest venture, launched late last year and boasting 7438 members. I think it's suffering a slight identity crisis, as I'm not sure whether it's a social group, a business networking system or a way for Massow to sell more of their financial products, or indeed a combination of the three. I'm sort of intrigued though. I may sign-up and let you know.
August 1st, 2002 - 03:17
the minority report review doesn’t seem to be there, in spite of the link to the contrary …
August 1st, 2002 - 07:40
Hmmm – hadn’t spotted that the FTP had crashed halfway through the upload I’d done. It’s there now – thanks for pointing it out.
August 1st, 2002 - 09:00
what else does one do at 3 in the morning?!?
August 1st, 2002 - 09:07
Funnily enough, I had wondered what you were doing, hanging around my place at that hour….
The answer to the question if you’re me is quite frequently ‘prowl around the place growing increasingly frustrated at an inability to sleep nor even to rest easily, before finally giving up completely and watching the same thing cycle round on News 24 for a couple of hours’.
Obviously, I’d recommend this.
August 1st, 2002 - 10:01
sounds like fun, personally i prefer being in bed at that time soundly asleep…
but then i’m odd like that.
and on the note of bandwidth theft, it is one of my (many) naive internet user pet hates…. and the amazing thing they don’t seem to consider it a problem, even though people have to pay for the transfer off there server in some way.
*sigh*
aol has a lot to answer for (apart from those crap adverts)
August 1st, 2002 - 13:46
I was having problems with a referral to my site that my hosting company’s stats engine could not help me with (maximum url length was exceeded so no instant gratification). After a bit of detective work I found that someone was using my picture on a forum for a shit german metal band called rammstein. When I finally get to sorting my site out I may keep the link and replace the picture.
August 1st, 2002 - 15:28
Bandwidth thievery (a curse upon all those who thieve bandwidth) was coincidentally a topic on Metafilter yesterday, when someone noted that a multiple victim had performed the old image switcheroo to confound the perpetrators. The person who started the thread actually asked whether pulling content off other sites “…wasn’t the whole point of the world wide web?”
This is all potentially very circular, by the way, as I added a comment to the MeFi thread about having come across the Comicon one….
August 1st, 2002 - 18:17
Changing the subject, I know what you mean about the Jake site. What exactly are they trying to be?
October 17th, 2002 - 19:10
Hi there, glad you found Jake. Its early days so we dont have a specific commercial or organic aim. Jake is simply a network of people opening up and attending social events. I hope you enjoy it.
Alex Sass
Director, JakeTM